my writings and talks

This page includes a selection of my writings and a selection of my presentations. For more information, email me at rania@ourwords.org

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Recent Presentations

* From South Africa to Palestine/Israel: Using Boycott to End Apartheid. August 19, 2009. Chapel Hill. Powerpoint presentation – bds talk

Select Chapter Publications

*    Assault on Iraq’s Environment: Radioactive Waste and Disease – The effects of depleted uranium weaponry and blockade. Iraq: Its History, People and Politics.  Ed. by Shams Inati.  Prometheus Books.  2003.

*    The Al-Aqsa Intifada:  A natural consequence of the military occupation, the Oslo accords, and the ‘peace process.’  The Struggle for Palestine.  Ed. by Lance Selfa. Haymarket Books.  2002.

*    Abunimah, Ali and Rania Masri.   The Media’s Deadly Spin on Iraq.   Iraq Under Siege:  The Deadly Impact of Sanctions and War.  Ed. by Anthony Arnove.  South End Press. Co-Published by Pluto Press in London.  2000. Second Edition – 2002.

*    Environmental Challenges in Lebanon.  Challenging Environmental Issues – Middle Eastern Perspectives.  Ed. by Joseph Jabbra and Nancy Jabbra.  Journal of Developing Societies, Volume XIII – fasc. 1. June 1997. Brill Academic Publishers. The Netherlands.  1997.

Select Journal Articles

*    Teaching Amid Despair: Global Warming and Israeli Wars on Lebanon. Environmental Communication: A Journal of Nature and Culture. Volume 1. Number 2. November 2007. Routledge.

*    Iraqi Food Security? Al-Adab Magazine. November-December 2005. Beirut, Lebanon.

*    Open Forum. (Response to Richard Garfield and Kwesi Dugbatey’s article on the role of NGOs in Iraq).  Humanitarian Affairs Review. Autumn 2000.  Belgium.

*     “Development” — At What Price? A review of the environmental management of Lebanese authorities (1992-1998).  Arab Studies Quarterly.  Volume 21. No. 1.  1999.

Writings available on-line

- Environmental writings -

The following articles are available in arabic at: http://adabmag.com/node/24

*“What’s in a number? A critique of the World Bank’s economic assessment of the environmental destruction of the July 2006 war. March 2008. (English Text: shorter-what-is-in-a-number)

* The big fish eats all the fish. December 2007 (English Text:big-fish-eating-all-fish)

* Drought, Thirst, and Hunger. September 2007. (English Text: droughtthirsthunger)

* What kind of sovereignty do we want? July – August 2007. (English Text:food1)

* Global Warming and Israeli Wars on Lebanon: Teaching Hope. May – June 2007. (English Text: global-warming-and-teaching-hope2)

- Political writings

  • an article I wrote about the February 2009 referendum elections in Venezuela – as published in Al-Akhbar in March 2009 (also see this post in reference to that article)
  • Living with the certainty of war (Rania Masri writing from Beirut, Lebanon, Live from Lebanon, 18 February 2008  )
  • “War, Racism, and Reverse Robin Hood.” Speech given at Shaw University in September 2007
  • “Lebanese Army Fires Live Ammunition At Peaceful Protest in Solidarity with Nahr el Bared Refugee Camp.” Scoop. June 30, 2007.
  • Who am I in the United States Speech given in Beirut Lebanon. June 2007
  • “They may accept us for a day or two but for how long?” Rania Masri and Jackson Allers writing from Bedaoui Refugee Camp, Live from Lebanon, 25 May 2007
  • “The situation is very bad” Jackson Allers and Rania Masri writing from Lebanon, Live from Lebanon, 23 May 2007
  • The need to intersectionalize the anti-war and anti-economic globalization movement. Iraq: economic globalization in the extreme Speech presented at the American Political Science Association. 2004
  • You Call This Liberation? Why No Democracy in Iraq? (Feb. 23, 2004)
  • “Freeing” Iraq’s Economy – For Its Occupiers (Feb. 2, 2004)
  • I’m gonna stay on the battlefield Speech given in Washington, DC in November 2003.
  • End Both Occupations (October 9, 2003)
  • Re-Constructing or De-Constructing Iraq? (July 24, 2003)
  • Fog of War (April 5, 2003)
  • On the 35th anniversary of the killing of Martin Luther King, Jr. Speech given on April 4, 2003 at the Raleigh North Carolina Vigil and Call to Action
  • Speaking for Peace (September 17, 2001)
  • Combating racism: Only together–with our arms locked (July/August 2001)

    Responses

    1. I just read your article for Scoop. And I must say that i strongly disagree on the line of argument that you used during this article. Before going in the details, the army had no right to shoot at unarmed civilians. Nevertheless, the protest did get out of hand, because as you wrote in the article: the protest continued outside the camp AGAINST THE WILL of the organizers. As for the wounded (especially the 3 years old child), i am still wondering what a 3years old child is doing between a crowd that are protesting??? And why there were no response to the warning shots???BUT the biggest questions are: what was said in that protest infront of the lebanese army??? The protesting Palestinians forgot the many breaks given by the army to civilians to get out of the El-Bared camp???? or how about cussing on army individuals that were butchered in cold blood which triggered the whole war ???? I think that palestinians should focus on a better control of security inside each camp. Then they can protest on other things.

    2. Adib Kfoury must’ve forgotten that no army in the world has the right to shoot live bullets on a protest whereas it was peacefully organized (which was the case here) or not. There are different ways to secure a protest, and shooting at people is not one of those. Proof to that, after the shooting the protest degenerated into a violent riot.
      The shootings were just a way to instigate this seeked degeneration.
      And do not mix the murderers of the army’s martyrs with the palestinians that were protesting for humane reasons.
      The reasons behind Al-Bared are far more bigger than what you’d expect.

    3. Jamal, did you read carefully my comment? i don’t think so. Check the third line of my comment.

    4. I just read your article “speaking for peace”. I’m totaly with you with the terorisem thig but i don’t think that in only roving gangs and thug which are american people are attaking arabs. It is right that they are attaking them but also there are arab gags that attak’s americans. I have friends in the US and in canada too that told me about those arab gangs and some of them are much wors than those american thugs. But on the other hand i realy like the artical.

    5. Looking great place for journey to enjoying so much it is looking so adventures and amazing…… Traveling during the holidays is always interesting.

    6. Mazri is a racist Jew hating revisionist who is bent on propogating false information with regard to “Palestine” and Israel. The lady is a joke, now read the truth.

      Here are just a handful of popular misconceptions and their antidotes:

      *1. Falsehood: Israel was erected on land that belonged to Palestinian
      Arabs*.

      Truth: Before Israel was created its territory never belonged to
      Palestinian Arabs and had not been ruled by any Arabs at all since the
      Middle Ages. It had been a Turkish province for centuries until it was
      captured by Britain during World War I. The League of Nations awarded
      governance of “Palestine” to Britain at the end of the war in exchange
      for its commitment to turn the area into a Jewish homeland. The lands on
      which Jewish immigrants settled before Israel was created were purchased
      by Jews at above-market prices and in most cases had no Arabs living on
      them. Virtually no Arabs were evicted.

      *2. Falsehood: The Jews came to Palestine as foreigners and aliens,

      whereas the Palestinians were the indigenous people of the territory. *
      Truth: Jews lived in “Palestine,” which is the Land of Israel or “Eretz
      Yisroel,” continuously from the time of the Bible. Most families of
      “Palestinians” migrated into “Palestine,” during the same period as the
      Zionist waves of immigration, starting in the second half of the 19th
      century. The largest ethnic group in the country at the time was the
      Turks. The “Palestinian Arabs” in 1948 were primarily families of
      migrants from Lebanon and Syria. Ironically, they were motivated to
      become “Palestinians” in the first place thanks to the Zionist movement,
      which brought capital and labor into “Palestine” and improved living
      conditions there. Huge numbers of the names of “Palestinian” Arab
      villages and towns are slightly-modified Hebrew names. It is difficult
      to dig in the ground of “Palestine” without uncovering Jewish artifacts,
      some thousands of years old. Meanwhile, two-thirds of Mandatory
      Palestine’s territory had been sliced off in the 1920s and used to set
      up Jordan, an Arab Palestinian state much larger than Israel. The
      remaining territory, Western Palestine, was to become the Jewish
      homeland. That was the original “two-state solution,” the same
      “innovation” now being promoted for the Western third of the remaining
      part of Palestine.

      *3. Falsehood: There is no Palestinian state today because of Israeli
      aggression and obstinacy. *

      Truth: There is no Palestinian state today because of Arab aggression
      and obstinacy. In late 1947, the United Nations approved by a two thirds
      majority a proposal to create in to create in Western “Palestine” two
      states to replace the British Mandatory regime there. One would be
      Jewish and the other a Palestinian Arab state. The Jews agreed. The
      Arabs rejected the idea. The Arab states launched an attack of genocidal
      aggression against the Jews, invaded “Palestine” and gobbled up the
      lands earmarked for the Arab Palestinian state. Most of those lands were
      then held illegally by Jordan and semi-legally by Egypt until 1967 when
      they were liberated by Israel in the Six Day War. The Arab world has
      maintained a state of war with Israel since 1948, refusing to recognize
      its legitimacy, and attacking Israel over and over in a series of wars
      and terrorism campaigns. The Arab states attacked Israel in 1948, 1956,
      1967, 1973, 1982, 2006, and sponsored terrorist atrocities against Jews
      in Israel since it was created. The reason for the attack which produced
      the first Arab-Israeli war in 1948 is exactly the same thing that stands
      in the way of any real peace settlement today.

      *4. Falsehood: Israel conducted “ethnic cleansing” of the Palestinian
      Arabs in 1948-49. *

      Truth: The Arab states conducted ethnic cleansing of Jews after 1948.
      About a million Jews were expelled by Arab states, their property
      stolen, and most then became citizens of Israel. Palestinian Arabs
      became refugees in 1948-49 as a direct result of the Arab war of
      aggression against Israel, in which the Palestinians participated. The
      estimated number of such Arab refugees varies between 400,000 and
      750,000, with the former the more likely correct estimate. Afterwards,
      many were quietly allowed to return to Israel. Hundreds of thousands of
      Arabs from other Arab countries then declared themselves “Palestinian
      refugees” in order to get handouts from the UN and other international
      relief organizations. The actual Palestinian Arabs became refugees for
      the same reason that ethnic Germans living in Eastern Europe became
      refugees after World War II: because they were on the losing side of the
      war of aggression launched by their own political leaders.

      *5. Falsehood: Israel is an apartheid regime and mistreats Arabs. *

      Truth: Israel is the only Middle East country that is NOT an apartheid
      regime. Arabs living under Israeli rule are the only Arabs in the Middle
      East who enjoy freedom of speech and of the press, free access to courts
      operating with due process, legal protection for property rights and the
      right to vote. Israeli Arabs have higher standards of education and
      health than any other group of Arabs in the Middle East. Israeli Arabs
      are quite simply the best-treated political minority in the Middle East
      and are in some ways better treated than are minority groups in many
      European countries. Israel is the only country in the Middle East that
      does NOT deal with Islamist terror through wholesale massacres of the
      people in whose midst the terrorists operate

      No Palestinians before 1967 demanded any “homeland,” although they did
      demand that the Jews be stripped of */theirs/*. That is because
      Palestinians are not a “people” at all and do not consider themselves
      such, any more than do the Arabs of Paris or of Detroit. Palestinians
      never had any real interest in their own state, and in fact rioted
      violently in 1920 when “Palestine” was detached from Syria by the
      European powers. Indeed the original term “Nakba” (“catastrophe” in
      Arabic and in leftist NewSpeak) was coined to refer to the outrage of
      Palestinians separated from their Syrian homeland. Immediately after the
      Six Day War a sudden need for a Palestinian state was fabricated by the
      Arab world, as a gimmick to force Israel back to its pre-1967 borders.
      Israel would then again be ten-miles wide at its narrowest, and so
      prepped for the new Arab assault of annihilation and genocide.

      The Arab world invented the “Palestinian people” so that it would serve
      the same role as the Sudeten Germans did in the late 1930s. That role
      was to provide a pretense of legitimacy for the war aims and aggression
      of a large fascist power. The term “self-determination” has been
      repeated as a rhetorical “inalienable right” for so long that few people
      recall that pursuing “self-determination” can also serve as a tool of
      aggression by barbarous aggressors and totalitarian powers. When Hitler
      decided to go on a war of conquest in the late 1930s, he dressed up his
      intentions in the cloak of legitimacy, merely “helping disenfranchised
      and oppressed people attain self-determination.” He distorted the plight
      of ethnic Germans living in the Czech Sudetenland and elsewhere in
      Eastern Europe, inventing tales of mistreatment. In reality of course
      these ethnic Germans already had the option of “self-determination”
      within the neighboring, sovereign German nation-states, and in fact
      enjoyed far more freedom and rights than did Germans inside Germany.
      Germany’s invasion of Czechoslovakia was prepared through postured
      indignity over the mistreatment of Germans by Germany’s neighbors.
      Hitler insisted he was simply seeking to relieve the “misery of
      mistreated ethnic Germans,” supposedly suffering inside democratic
      Czechoslovakia. “Self-determination” was also the pretense when Germany
      attacked Poland and other countries.

      The Arab world decided that the “Palestinians” must play the role of
      Sudetens, serving as the political and moral pretense for Arab
      aggression and Islamofascist imperialism. The Arab fascists then
      misrepresent themselves as pursuing noble efforts at protecting a
      mistreated oppressed minority group of Arabs in need of
      “self-determination.”

      *8. Falsehood: Palestinian terrorism has been a response to Israeli
      occupation of the West Bank and Gaza, and as a response to Israeli
      settlements there*.

      Truth: Palestinian terrorism against Jews began in the 1920s, escalated
      in the 1930s, continued non-stop in the 1940s even in the midst of World
      War II, and reached heights of barbarism in the 1950s. All this was long
      before Israel “occupied” anything. The PLO was set up long before the
      Six Day War, meaning before Israel “occupied” the West Bank and Gaza,
      and before those areas held a single Israeli settlement.

      *9. Falsehood: Israel has no right to build settlements in the West Bank. *

      Truth: Israel has as much right to build settlements in the West Bank as
      France has to build towns in Alsace and Lorraine, or as Poland has to
      build in areas that once held ethnic Germans. The Arabs launched a
      series of wars of aggression against Israel and lost. Aggressors who
      lose a war also lose territory. The bulk of Jewish “settlers” are
      actually Israelis living in the suburbs of Jerusalem that were
      constructed after 1967. A handful of small rural “settlements” have been
      constructed in empty West Bank lands from which no Arab civilians were
      evicted. In any real peace settlement, Jews would have as much right to
      live in the West Bank as Arabs have to live inside Israel. A peace
      accord that rules out such an arrangement would be no peace accord at all.

      *11. Falsehood: Israel deals with Palestinian violence and terrorism
      using excessive disproportionate force. *

      Truth: The number of */innocent/* Palestinian civilians
      */intentionally/* killed by Israel is exactly zero. The number of
      civilians injured in Israeli anti-terror operations is tiny when
      compared with NATO and Allied military operations in Serbia, Bosnia,
      Afghanistan, or Iraq. Given the near universal support among
      Palestinians for terrorist atrocities against Jews, the self-restraint
      and moderation used by Israel in dealing with the threat has no
      precedent in the world. Israel’s own Arabs make little attempt to hide
      their open identification with the genocidal enemies of their own
      country and they by and large support the annihilation of the state in
      which they hold citizenship. No other democratic country facing such
      open sedition and identification with the enemy in time of war ever
      responded with anywhere near the same restraint as shown by Israel. In
      World War II, when faced with a far less-dangerous problem, the United
      States locked up its ethnic-Japanese domestic population in internment
      camps. Democratic Spain set up teams of death squads to deal with /its/
      separatist terrorists. Democracies in war have junked /habeas corpus/
      and treated their internal Fifth Columns as the enemy, with no
      hesitation or squeamishness.

      *12. Falsehood: Israel can achieve peace by trading “Land for Peace” and
      by relinquishing territories that it “occupies.” *

      Truth: Every time Israel relinquishes territory it “occupies” it
      triggers an escalation of terror and violence by Arabs against Jews. The
      main cause of anti-Israel terrorism today is the */removal/* of Israeli
      occupation from Arabs. This is so obvious that it is a major
      intellectual challenge to explain why so few people understand it.
      Israel ended its occupation of the Gaza Strip in its entirety in 2004
      and evicted all Jews who had been living there. The complete Israeli
      withdrawal from the Gaza Strip produced a barrage of thousands of
      rockets aimed at Israeli civilians inside Israel (/NOT/ in the “occupied
      territories”), a barrage that eventually forced Israel’s reluctant
      leaders to carry out the “Cast Lead” operation against Gaza terrorism.
      The Israeli occupation of southern Lebanon was unilaterally ended in the
      year 2000 by then-Israeli socialist Prime Minister Ehud Barak. The
      direct result of that fiasco was the launching of 4,000 Katyusha rockets
      from Lebanon against northern Israel in the summer of 2006, and several
      times that number now poised to strike Israel. The worst waves of
      Palestinian suicide attacks were directly triggered by the early Oslo
      withdrawals ? before which there had been no suicide bombings. There can
      be no doubt that a complete Israeli withdrawal from the West Bank and a
      return to pre-1967 borders would trigger a massive rocket and terror
      assault against the remaining areas of Israel, launched from the
      “liberated” lands in the West Bank. The same thing would result from
      Israel relinquishing the Golan Heights to Syria.

      14. Falsehood: The Middle East conflict can be resolved through “Two
      States for Two Peoples.”*

      Truth: The “Two States for Two Peoples” idea is not a solution at all
      but simply a strategy for weakening Israel and forcing it behind
      indefensible borders. Right after “Two States for Two Peoples” would be
      implemented, the new “Palestinian state” would invite the rest of the
      Arab world to finish off what remains of Israel. Even the “moderates”
      within the PLO insist that any “Israel” left standing within “Two States
      for Two Peoples” must be flooded by Arab migrants and stripped of its
      Jewish majority, in effect converted to yet another Arab Palestinian
      state.

      The result of all this is pseudo-history, where people invent new
      “theories” about some of the most widely-accepted truths of history. No
      subject has been subject to quite so much pseudo-historic revisionism
      and denial of “out-of date” truths as the Middle East. George Orwell
      once said that the first duty of intelligent men is to restate the
      obvious. Obvious truths need to be restated because they are under
      assault by so many dishonest men.

      The Palestinians have no legitimate claim to a right to set up their own
      state, and creation of such a state would result in escalated warfare
      and bloodshed, not peace. There was never in history an Arab Palestinian
      state. Even if such a right ever existed, the Palestinians ? like the
      Sudeten Germans – would have forfeited it thanks to decades of
      terrorism, savagery, mass murders and barbarism. Their pacification
      today requires reimposing of martial rule by Israel and a thorough
      program of Denazification.

      The promotion of a “Two States for Two Peoples” solution has radicalized
      and Nazified most Israeli Arabs, who now identify with and openly
      support Arab parties and politicians openly calling for violence against
      Jews and for the destruction of Israel. The “solution” is a recipe for
      more bloodshed and strife.

    7. Rene De La Varre, a fairly recent arrival to Chapel Hill, NC, has written vitriolic letters to the local newspapers on activities and events he considers hostile to Israel.

      On August 19, 2009, Rani Masri gave a masterful presentation in Chapel Hill, NC, to a receptive audience that became informed of necessary responses to the supression of the Palestinian people. I have not see Mr. De La Varre at this event nor others.

      • Masterful…..if you believe a historical revisionist who hates Israel.
        Me….I’ve lived in Chapel Hill for 15 years!

        I have no reason to support Israel other than to correct all the false information that is used to portray Israel as an oppressor of people called “Palestinian”

        I base my opinions on fact, personal experience. Liberals cant deal with the truth so they call my letters “vitriolic”……I am tame compared to Ms. Masri.

    8. My response. I am not a new arrival; I’ve lived in Chapel Hill for 14 years. I’ve lived in Israel, and have not agenda on the part of Israel. After years of listening to too left wing/liberal lies hurled at Israel, I was forced to speak out against this double standard and injustice directed at Israel. None of my letters have been rebutted. Why? Because I state facts, and the liberals cant deal with the truth. I do not waste my time listening to the lies and false information spewed out by Ms. Masri. If I am vitriolic as you say….what does that make Masri?

      In closing, I am not Jewish nor religious. I am passionate about Israel because of my concern with an aspect of our society that is in historical denial; holds Israel to a sick double standard, and uses Israel as a liberal cause.

      Most of the liberals have never traveled to, nor lived in Israel. I have. Many of my friends are Jewish, Arab, Lebanese, Israeli, etc. People like Misch cant deal with the truth.

      You fight a war you will never win.

    9. Mr Delavarre, let’s jump beyond the fact that you, like many, can only explain anti-israeli activism by primitive hatred, racism, anti-jew “ism”, and the fact that you cannot admit that someone might have an opinion which is different than yours, AND led by rational convictions. Let’s also not talk too much of how the number of times you say “liberal” like the word alone was an argument, makes you sound like the guy who would wear a “don’t mess with texas” shirt and name his pick-up truck.
      Let’s get to the point: As a leftist nazi liberal jew-hater (apparently), i’m asking you how are we gonna solve this problem?
      You’re saying that you’re against the “two states for two people” formula, for x reasons. Very well, propose an alternative solution und we shall discuss it.

    10. I normally if ever use those terms. Yes, they are cliched, it’s just that I have heard the same garbage from the “left” for too long. All their arguments are laced with false hoods. How can one small speck of a country be held up to such a high double standard when you consider all the real human rights abuses in the world, yet Israel is always singled out. THus, my conclusion, and the only one left ……anti-Jewish, anti-Israel, whatever. I dont know what to call it. I do know that the left wing is strongly aligned with the same lame cliches, “occupation” ethnic cleansing” “apartheid”, etc. This argument is a waste. I have stated the facts based on history of the region, and based on what I have seen first hand! Please read previous posts and letters to editor. I can, but wont repeat all the points.
      Thanks
      RPaul de la Varre

    11. OK. another point. Another stereotype: There are as many rednecks in NY as their are in Texas OK. “DOnt Mess with Texas” refers to anti-pollution laws!!!!! – not fighting!.Christ……I am an author, got 2 degrees, and am well read, so dont even consider me a redneck. I’ve walked down the streets of Harlem, Kingston, Jamaica, Beirut, and I feel at home with arabs, blacks, and any other color for that matter. The arabs are nice people; their leadership is corrupt and hate all things not Islam.

    12. You can have a degree from Yale, have people call you Mr President and still be a pure breed, joe six-pack redneck. on’t say anti-jewish, anti-israel, whatver. It’s not the same thing. I live in Lebanon now (not many jewish people there) but i’ve lived in Paris for years, i have many Jewish friends (even been invited to a bar-mitzvah) and yet i’m very anti-israeli. But it’s a purely political opinion, and that’s what you can’t assume. One can have anti-israeli opinions without being racist, without being an islamist, without being a bleeding heart leftist and without being a nazi or a fascist. I’m not even considered “liberal” on some issues.
      But you still haven’t answered my question. According to you, what’s the solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict? If a Palestinian state isn’t created, what would be the next step? Do we keep things theway they are, do we throw paletinians to the sea, do we try and give them a surrogate state somewhere on Saturn? After all, despite all your “arguments”, they still are a people, human beings. And they were on this land before the israelis (let’s not rewind to -2000 BC, because that way the italians could claim half of europe), therefore they at least deserve a state.

    13. Israel should annex the entire area once known as “Palestine” with Jerusalem (as whole) the Israeli capital….actually it is already………And like it is now, all Arabs have a right to be Israeli citizens, represented in government with all the same rights Jews have…..which is the case now!……Israel is the only semblance of liberty, free speech, gay rights, womens rights, etc in the entire region, which, except Lebanon, lives in the dark ages.

      It makes me laugh when I see how mad Arabs are at Israel, the size of little Vermont; Arab lands – the size of TEXAS. .And all they do is cry and complain about the misfortunes they have created, simply for hating all reglions but their own. There never was a “Palestine” and never will be. This land was never exclusively Araba, and never will be.

      Let Egyp, Syria, or Lebanon take in the “refugees who dont want to become Israelis. Their is no more room (or trust) for a separate “Palestinian” state next to Israel. No way. I am done.

    14. “No way. I am done” who the hell do you think you are? You’re an idiot. Israel being a haven of public liberties is all very pretty. It’s like saying jack the ripper was a fine man because he removed his hat when saluting a lady. You know, before raping and killing her. Do you know what was the first country to pass a law on animal rights? Germany. Do you know when? When a guy called adolf hitler was ruling. Because apprently, Hitler wanted animals to be treated fairly. Does that make him a charitable person? No it doesn’t, because the freak was killing millions in gas chambers at the same time. So i couldn’t care less about gay people being able to kiss in public, when you’re using napalm on neighborhoods with the highest civilian density in the world. And how would you expect palestinians to accept becoming israeli citizens? Netanyahu recently said that one of the sine qua none conditions for peace was for palestinians to recognize israel as a jewish state. Anyway, our differences in opinion seem to be very deep so there’s no point trying to convince one another. But let me tell you facts. In its last two big military operations in Lebanon 2006 and Gaza last January, the israeli army (as you call it israeli defence force -innocent boyscouts that they are) has failed to achieve its goals. Against who? Against a bunch of guys who used steel tubes and dynamites to craft rockets. And you failed to turn the people against the resistance movements, despite the massacres. Hell, you even managed to make most lebanese christians support hezbollah. that’s how bad you screwed up. Recents polls have shown that the israeli people believed hassan nasrallah more than they did their own leaders. And hezbollah has more than re-armed since 2006, so did hamas. But that’s not why you’ll lose. You’ll lose because palestinian mothers are in this state of mind: the more children i get, the more resistants (call them terrorists if you want) there will be. And migration to israel has been sensibly reduced. The maths war, you cannot win. And by the way “Let Egyp, Syria, or Lebanon take in the refugees who dont want to become Israelis. ” That’s called Ethnic Cleansing. And stop comparing anything that attacks israel to hitler. How could a sane mind compare the palestinians to the sudetian germans? The palestinians were and still are a MAJORITY. they’re not a cultural minority in another’s country. they’re a majority in their own country. and they were here before the importation of jewish colonials who became israelis. You’re actually talking about ethnic cleansing. Palestinians in a land, we import jewish colonials, make a jewish country (the star of david is on the flag, so it’s pretty much a jewish country. or we’d describe saudi arabians as laics.) make the palestinians either become part of this jewish country, or we make them depart from their homes. that’s ethnic cleansing. how could it get more ethnic cleansing-y? that’s what happened in 1947, and apparently that’s what your great humanist mind wants to do now. except you can’t. they’ve been living in hell since 1947, but they’re still there, and willing to hang on. either kill them all if you can (brings us back to the maths thing) or live with them. and give them their rights. because where i see it going, is simply israel disappearing.

    15. You’ve conveniently overlooked all the facts I stated…..The Palestinians created their own misery; no one forced them out; they left on their own, with the pressure of their arab pals who were so convinced they could destroy Israe; Now look at what youve created……a nuclear force which Israel did not want to have but were forced to because of all her surrounding enemies. Admit it, the Syria, Egpt and Jordan dont give a crap about the so called “Palestinians” because they know it is not Israel that created the problem…..Egypt produced 365 books last year; Israel produced 4,238!!!! They are smarter, tougher, and will never disappear. And you are a complete devoid of all history, and totally in denial. You are a pathetic excuse for a human being….And, this is the last time I will answer assholes. Goodnight Asshole.

    16. You see, i too am subjective but at least i use rational arguments (you may agree or not, but they’re still arguments) while you, Mr “two degrees, well-read” (it doesn’t count if the people who read you are the same people who hold Dr Phil as an intellectual reference) Voltaire of Chapel Hill, only say stuff you’ve pulled out of your own butt (apart maybe from the books thing, which i cannot be bothered to verify because i don’t care about the cultural level in egypt, as i will state later). “A nuclear force which israel did not want to have”? Do you think i’m mentally challenged? I never mentioned arab countries (which, as far as i’m concerned, are constituted of ignorant sheep led by fat, even more ignorant, pigs.) and there you go telling me how israel produces more books than egypt. egypt being israel’s main ally in the region. I go talk about polls results, and military facts that happened in the last two years, acknowledged by the israelis themselves, and you throw a ridiculous “they’re smarter and thougher and will never disappear”. I don’t mind you calling me an asshole, but please, before that, quote some facts and let us have an actual debate.

    17. If the Arabs sought peace, real peace, there could have been a 2 state solution 61 years ago. Israel did not want to waste money on defenses and nukes…they have no need for them (if their was peace)…..they are sorrounded by enemies; people that live in the dark ages…..Israel has the most companies listed on the stock exchange…they care about living and survival and the nukes are a necessary evil. Ive’ offered at least 50 facts in stating my case for Israel, and opposition to stupid worn out cliches like “occupation” ethnic cleansing, apartheid, etc. It is worn out because none of these asshole terms apply. One fact: Israel was completely out of Gaza. And what did the Arabs do……attacked Israel!!! They, their leadership is corrupt.

      If you are Lebanese, thats cool. I have friends from there who are cool, and very smart and rational……Beirut could be like the French Riviera if only the PLO and Hezbollah and Hamas, and Iran hadn’t tried to devour the country. I like Lebanon as much as Israel.

      I take back calling you an asshole. That was a juvenile remark…..there are no solutions except a one state solution. Israel for everyone as it is now.


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